I thing that Tim has said all that I might have done, only better (thanks Tim). The SGS2 (Schedulke of growing skills) gives a very similat profile to RG but is quicker. It isn't quite so 'scientific' as you don't end up woith quotients but does pick up significant areas of delay that need attention of observation. Because there are no quotients we don't get so hun g up on small percentage increases or reduction, only siginificant movement in progress but the down sude is the lack of objective 'numerical' data to help with outcome assessment. Clare